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For junior exploration this is the 2008 financial collapse all over again




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Small stocks hit 2008 lows as junior golds collapse to $29 per ounce / algorithmic trading is fueling TSX Venture destruction 

Pinetree Capital (TSX: T.PNP, Stock Forum; 68 cents) I have used for years as a benchmark of investor sentiment. They hold a large portfolio of micro and small cap public companies across various sectors worth almost $200 million. Approximately 70% is weighted toward base and precious metals and 15% uranium and other specialty metals and minerals. 

This five-year chart on Pinetree sums it up very well – we are currently back to the devastating lows hit in Q4/08 following the global economic collapse.

At that point, the level of pessimism hit an all-time low and the discussions centered on the 1930’s depression. The difference today, the Dow is near a five-year high and it is only the small, higher risk companies that are being subjected to these incredibly low valuation levels.

Junior golds collapse to $29 per gold ounce

To back this “post economic collapse” valuation scenario, we can also take a look at the junior gold stocks. I track 50 with a minimum one million ounces (43-101 compliant) and have been doing so since I noticed cracks in the foundation March 2011.

I use this to try and benchmark fair value for the sector overall, but also when researching individual companies and trying to determine their growth potential and risks. View my comments below on Victoria Gold and you will understand why this is important.

As the following chart will show, we hit what appeared to be a low in June 2012. At that time, we were all devastated that valuations could have fallen to these levels.

That basket of junior golds hit $29 per ounce this past week!




Algorithmic traders helping destroy our market 

Defined: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_trading 

In “normal” times issuing news was a positive event that both companies and shareholders looked forward to. Now it is a liquidity event. If news is moderate to good – it creates enough buying for shareholders to liquidate. 

If it is good enough to generate a substantial amount of buying – the algorithmic traders identify the liquidity, jump on it like maggots – and butcher it for a penny or two. Then they move on after a couple days to the next play and leave the company in the dust. 

The Canadian junior markets are too small for these algorithmic traders. This works fine on larger companies or exchanges, but it is destroying our small Canadian market and the Venture Exchange. No doubt they introduced it (and continue to allow it) because of the fees the exchange generates. 

But when we have a weak investment environment to begin with (for micro and small caps in Canada), we will be left with a barren wasteland within the next couple years. 

More than just financial destruction 

If something isn’t done in 2013 to address this, we will have a very serious problem and the reputation (that took the past decade to repair) of Canada being the best place on the planet to raise exploration capital – will be wiped out. 

Right now more than 500 small companies on the TSX Venture are at risk of disappearing. They will soon run out of money with few options to tap into capital. To an extent you can view this as survival of the fittest. 

However, at the same time, this has destroyed the speculative portfolios of tens of thousands of investors in the TSX and TSX Venture who have traded (quite successfully) these markets for decades. Now in a matter of two years we are at risk of losing those investors (speculators). Many will never return because they are in, or approaching, retirement age. Others will slowly dip their toe back into the market, but only after a period of years. 

Cash- rich companies are also struggling 

And the situation isn’t much better for the companies with cash. Through my Virtual Vulture Fund we track 80 TSX and TSX.V listed companies with a minimum of $10 million and a maximum of $190 million. They are not fairing any better. 

Most trade at or well below cash value and many are just sitting on their cash doing nothing with it – creating long term retirement projects for senior management and the board (Phoscan at 27 cents with $60 million is one good example). 

Others like Victoria Gold (TSX: V.VIT, Stock Forum; 19 cents) have more than $30 million in the bank and six million gold ounces in the Yukon - that appears economic. What is the market currently valuing that gold at? 

An incredibly low $5 per gold ounce. And this is one of the most stable regions of the world. 

On February 19, Victoria Gold announced critical environmental approval that took two years to obtain. This should have produced some decent gains considering the low valuation of the gold and the fact they traded rock bottom on their chart. 

Instead, the stock cycled 3.6 million shares and went nowhere. Thanks primarily to short term traders and in particular, the algorithmic traders who had their computer programs skim off half a penny or so every few seconds of decent activity. 

What should have been market moving news – was an event that did nothing to change the valuation of the company. And this is supposed to be an “Efficient” Market?  It isn’t even close. In fact – this is a huge mess for small Canadian companies and retail investors. 

If the stock exchange, regulators, and brokerage firms don’t put their heads together in 2013 to arrive at a solution, we are going to see billions of dollars in speculative capital leave this venture market permanently. 

And with so many investors approaching retirement age, now is not the time for them to bury their head in the sand and think it will fix itself. I am not convinced it will this time.

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Disclosure: Danny Deadlock owns no shares of Pinetree Capital (TSX: T.PNP) and 60,000 shares of Victoria Gold (TSX: V.VIT).

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The exchanges must stop this two tier system of commissions. Paying one group to trade with money that the other group is charged creates a ridiculously tilted playing field. Many algos will sell something at 30 cents ask and then turn around and bid 30 cents. The exchange is paying these traders to do this and using the stupid excuse that it creates liquidity when all it creates is volume and unfairness. In order to pay these so called "passive traders" , I am charged more and for that I get a messed up auction market. Time for all clients to rise up against this unfair system.
Danny, Even Berkshire Hathaway isn't immune from #HFT induced screw-ups after all http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4138.html Enjoying all the comments. Good Day, BIT
I can assure you that he's talking about HFT! And for your information HFT is the same no matter the exchange it preys upon. Algorithmic trading is a parasite and companies' and their shareholders' good news is it's host. Example: “There is a real interest in moving the process of interpreting news from the humans to the machines. More of our customers are finding ways to use news content to make money.” Kiristi Suutani, Global Business Manager of Algorithmic Trading at Reuters. What she's really saying is making money off of real shareholders;-) It so happens that the Venture exchange is a great source for big gains or losses at a moments notice - not many sectors where a company can fluctuate 10%-100% or more in a day on news - very ideal for HFT, providing that the victim has a large amount of outstanding shares (~over 80 million) and regularly trades at a healthy volume.
It used to pay off for the long term investor that picked the right play which kept reaching it's milestones on time or better but now HFT has sucked the life out of any deserved sp gain these sound companies need to advance their projects. The only good thing to come out of this will be the demise of a bunch freeloading companies, unfortunately it will kill many legit companies as well, but that imo is the new market valuation so if one still holding they better make sure that it is a fundamentally sound company with a resource to back it up. Two great videos that just might make one realize how much we're being spoonfed: http://vimeo.com/20861423 & http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/
@metalbrain - Again you are talking about big board USD algo trading. Buffet isn't speaking about the Venture exachange I can assure you that!
We're up against Goliath without a slingshot here Danny. Disinformation rules the day and apparently Warren Buffet backed that up by recently stating that "HFT doesn’t make a difference if you own stocks long-term, and that while real-time quotes are good, people have made them a bad thing by being swayed by what the market tells them at any moment." So basically he agrees that HFT scalps any short term gains from the company and their shareholders, but we should just ignore the theft and hold long term!? This is coming from a guy who called out OTC derivatives as "weapons of mass financial destruction" but has changed his tune now that he's playing the game himself - typical! Me thinks a "flash crash" of a few of his stocks would change his organ grinding.... http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/why-warren-buffett-wrong-high-frequency-trading-134946480.html ..........http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-06/guest-post-nanex-investors-need-realize-machines-have-taken-ove
@sethro - ignorance is bliss isn't it? I wish I was ignorant for I'd be happy as a pig in shite - just like you perhaps? Algorithmic trading is predatory in that they scan any news at the first nano second it hits the airwaves. They then scoop as much shares as they can and then sell them off all the way down to within a cent of where they first scooped them. HFT is a parasite and any fundamentally short-term positive news for a company is the host. HFT's queue jumping, quote stuffing and other predatory practices leave the common investor and small companies at a huge disadvantage. Obviously you're the type of the walking upright that need to experience the reality first hand before even considering such a thing. Flash crash will be coming your way soon enough - just don't go whining about it later!
@metalbrain - You say, "HFT proponents cry out that their algo trading "provides liquidity to the markets", how is that statement possible when all they do is suck the life out of any news and market sentiment for that day". So explain to me HOW exactly these HFT guys SUCK the life out? When they buy do they not SUPPORT the market? When they cover shorts do they not again SUPPORT the market? Perhaps when an algo buys it is from a long term shareholder who has been trying to sell for months? Perhaps those same shares are then sold 30 seconds later to another fundamental investor who now doesn't have to get hit with a 5 cent spread? No algo is taking money from the existing shareholders or the company, you and mr.deadlock have a blatant misunderstanding regarding the fundamental trading mechanisms of a continuous auction market.
Metalbrain - you hit the nail on the head ! Your comments with respect to the high frequency traders (HFT) are bang on. The real issue with HFT on these small companies, is that they are scalping (raping) what they can from real investors who become fed up with the way the stock trades or fails to respond to fundamental improvements. As retail investors see this happen time and time again, they throw their hands in the air out of disgust and walk away. How is that helping to build an efficient market ? If 70% of the trading on U.S big boards is Algo, even a small percentage of that on TSX or TSX.V small companies is a huge (negative) influence. Yes there are many other problems with these stocks that go much deeper (mgmt abuse of funds, etc.), but why make a bad situation much worse with uncontrolled HFT ?
I am almost mad enough to spit when I read someone like Danny PISS AND MOAN about the investors leaving because of the state of the exchange and the algo trading??? Are you WQ#$% kidding me Danny, they wont touch the TSX.V any more because they've been raped of their investment dollars time and time and time again by unscrupulous Howe Street rounders and scum bag pump and dump outfits. That's why it's a freakin' zombie exchange Danny -- they are finally running out of suckers.
Danny Deadlock is right about the parasitic algo trading in this sector and unfortunately VIT's huge outstanding float is the perfect victim for them. The doublespeak used to squelch any opposition has become so prevalent in our society that one would swear that it's working to a tee! HFT proponents cry out that their algo trading "provides liquidity to the markets", how is that statement possible when all they do is suck the life out of any news and market sentiment for that day - they're basically scalping the company and shareholders! And after they've skimmed all they can? They pull out all their money along with their BIDS & ASKS at the end of each day. How is that called investing? What if the common investors pulled out all their money at the end of each day? What if they didn't want to return to that same company the next day or perhaps even the market? My guess is that extreme volatility would ensue. Real shareholders provide the needed capital and HFT sucks it away!
Until I hear a logical theory and reason why this algorithmic trading should move a market in either direction I fail to see any truth to these whining over bad markets in bad times in risky stocks. Its like buying many lottery tickets and then complaining about it when your number doesn't win the lottery. So far as I can see, anyone trading (buying then selling or vice versa)rapidly with a half penny to be made should be approximately neutral to the market. The movement to the market will come from those who buy but DO NOT sell the stock back a second later. It is they who drive the overall macro price movement over time and not the micro half penny fluctuations BACK AND FORTH over a time frame of seconds. Of course you need very liquid markets to pull this off so that excludes most microcap venture stocks. when you invest in high risk stocks - sometimes you lose!
Until I hear a logical theory and reason why this algorithmic trading should move a market in either direction I fail to see any truth to these whining over bad markets in bad times in risky stocks. Its lilke buying many lottery tickets and then complaining about it when your number doesn't win the lottery. So far as I can see, anyone trading (buying then selling or vice versa)rapidly with a half penny to be made should be approxmately neutral to the market. The movement to the market will come from those who buy but DO NOT sell the stock back a second later. It is they who drive the overall macro price movement over time and not the micro half penny fluctuations BACK AND FORTH over a time frame of seconds. Of course you need very liquid markets to pull this off so that excludes most microcap venture stocks. when you invest in high risk stocks - sometimes you lose!
The decline in these stocks is largely due to the good work of shareholder activists. We are tired of seeing our investment capital go on excessive management compensation and lawyers' fees which are destined who knows where. With services like pumpsanddumps.com, it is being realized even by the most eager and naive that there are dozens, if not hundreds of active pump and dump schemes operating every day. The deck is stacked massively against the investor in these situations. The only people making money are insiders, bunko operators of 'penny stock letters', 'IR bucket shops', and various shills, touts, and promoters, all acting against the intent of securities and exchange regulations. There are not enough police resources to handle this problem, so public education such as sites like this are the only answer. Also we have collusion from politicians and lawyers that make all of this activity quasi-legal. It is no less of a rip-off of your hard-earned money Caveat Emptor.
powerful data deadlock.......example CDU (CDY US) new 52wk low .28 and junior JAU only able to raise 146k after 3 months of a toatl 400k. Shortsellers everywhere on any bumps northbound. Good Day BITW
No mention of what we can do about it?
There's no proof there's algo trading on the Venture....the garbage is just being tossed out.
ELT adding more ground in same geology about 7km east of LOT and QIT....other good plays at the moment, uranium FIS AMW LK , gold LAR, graphite ZEN,
The CDNX, primarily junior mining stocks deserves to get annihilated. The greed shown by managements issuing stock, printing shares and diluting stockholders the past 2 years is disgusting. NWT was a cash rich company 2 years ago with 20M in cash. Mr.Deadlock knows about that one. Millions in cash have been siphoned from shareholders through outrageous salaries and "consulting fees" with absolutely zero progress in 2 years other than buying shares of some useless uranium company in Niger just to support their friends who run it. Today it is halted because they're undergoing a "change of business" trying to buy shares of a bankrupt company! Absolutely disgusting and outrageous. Majority of mining juniors are there to enrich management. I for one am happy with this wipeout despite losing over 200,000 dollars in juniors.Came to my senses and put what I had left into divy stocks and have made some back. I consider the loss as tuition. You think I will ever buy another junior Mr. Deadlock?
Many readers are not going to like these comments but, The Worse is Yet to Come, we will see many of the Junior MKT go NO BID and many Commodity stocks to make new new lows, worse than 2008. In fact we expect, over the next 2 to 3 years, all MKTS, with a few exceptions on certain asset classes, to make new lows. Those who have reached for Risk and Yield will suffer the most. One poster says theUS Economy is recovering - sorry to disagree, its a False recovery and the next Body Blow will cripple the recovery, expect ZERO Growth in the US and Global economies. A great buying opportunity will present itself over the next two years and you do not want to be in Juniors, you want REAL/Established Companies, mainly international earnings and certain food/Agri companies. If you own gold only own Physical gold equities will collapse with the MKTS.
I would ask, "are companies over-valued?" If not, then something is amiss and should be brought forward. Why did this collapse after Standard and Poor's downgraded America, July 2011? And what will it take to bring these companies back? Remember, explorers have a specific purpose for the respective industries. If they can't do their job, many others can't do their's either. I see this as a symptom of a much bigger problem, plus the crooked trading schemes. But for us, it is simply unfair. Many of these companies should be trending upward. And we should have been rewarded. I say the truth is hidden, as usual.
Seems to be quite a difference between the U.S. market and the Cdn market: "Fueled by a recovering broader economy and housing market, re-accelerating earnings growth and a pickup in merger-and-acquisition activity, small-cap stocks are poised to outperform their large-cap peers again this year. In 2012, small-caps, as represented by the Russell 2000 (NYSEArca:.RUT-P), rose 15 percent versus a 13 percent rise for the large-cap S&P 500 (^GSPC). BofA Merrill Lynch small-cap strategist Steven DeSanctis expects small-caps to return more than 20 percent in 2013. "
The vse or what ever you want to call it about to collapse, probably just after wall street as they have higher greed and greater stupidity. Some say a correction is coming but that is not true for they have been living in a house of cards for the last 15 years at least and the parabolic curve is at present going straight up for the first time .. it is over!
Danny ... The reality is that most of the juniors are way over priced... They have far too many shares out... They have pillaged the small investor....real companies will survive ... With strong management... Not Howe street hookers waiting to pillage...save your money and invest wisely... It would be nice to see 50 percent of the tsx venture gone! Oh... I think it will be!
@deadlock,70% of the volume on the US big board which is so different to our TSXV. To state that the TSXV has approx 1/2 the US volume of HFT trading is completely false. IIROC recently did a study on HFT trading titled "the hot study" http://www.iiroc.ca/Documents/2012/c03dbb44-9032-4c6b-946e-6f2bd6cf4e23_en.pdf Excerpt, TSXV-Listed Securities-Our results show that 4% of the volume, 9% of the value and 16% of the trades executed by HOT User IDs (HOT ID=algo/prop trader)is in the most liquid TSXV-listed securities. Figure 26 shows that HOT User IDs trading in TSX-listed securities trade BELOW their study average at prices below $1.00, and at their study average at prices above $1.00. It appears that HOT User IDs trade proportionally more the higher the price. See bottom of page 38 figure 26, you'll see from the price of 0.005$ to 1.00$ algo trading is far LESS THAN 10% of total TSXV volume. Please fact check your posts before you start your baseless fear mongering
Hello Danny, Bravo for your comments on algo trading. But don't forget the impact shorting (including naked shorting) is having in Venture stocks. Shorting works against investors and benefits only the shorters and brokerages. Ban shorting and impose hefty penalties (e.g. disgorgement of 300% of profits from regular shorting; disgorgement of 500% of profits from naked shorting)
@panther answer . Supply and demand .
Danny or others....What is holding back some Cash Rich SENIOR metals company from identifying and scooping up some of these beat down juniors that have CASH and significant OUNCES in a Blitz!....Seems to me that there are quite a few that could compliment any SENIOR METALS COMPANY holdings and growth.....PANTHERSunite
Rick Rule was on KWN a few days ago, he thinks this is the opportunity of a lifetime in juniors and he's no dummy (I hope)!
Except for the darling Zenyatta Ventures (V.ZEN) It has gone from 14 cents to $2.14 in the last 6 months. Scarry thing is I do not believe it is done yet! G.
VICTORIA GOLD has my attention and probably a lot of others!!!....VIT is trading so low currently that I feel it is a GIFT at these prices....Danny, ...ALL that cash and ALL that gold ....makes me wonder if it is a Takeover target or just a potential huge opportunity....Patience.....PANTHERSunite
Agreed threepalms....one with great management (geologists)...2 properties with paths to developing mines (Blackwater and Lalor in Manitoba)....recent 43-101's on two of their 4 properties...all in Canada!...and continuing exploration this Spring with Hudbay Minerals...is Troymet, V.TYE Good website as well. www.troymet.com
Very good comments and feedback (including a few good laughs). Thank You. The CNBC article posted by stockseer clearly shows the risk we face with Algo trading. It currently accounts for 70 percent of U.S. daily trading ? There is no doubt the impact even half that is having on our small exchange. The link may have been missed so here it is again... http://www.cnbc.com/id/49333454/Mysterious_Algorithm_Was_4_of_Trading_Activity_Last_Week
read the article twice and read all of the comments posted. Many of the comments provide different points of vue but the fact remains is there system needs fixing. Some of it will occur simply by what I like to refer to as the Culling of the TSX Venture exchange. PDAC 2013 will be the point where the rubber hits the road for many of these companies. Only those with good management teams with strong geology skill sets will likely survive. If you did your DD and have good positions in the survivors you will do well in 2013.imho Picking out the good ones from the trash takes time and effort.
There's nothing left Danny, might as well quit blogging now, it's over. Last one out turn off the lights - see you in the next decade.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49333454/Mysterious_Algorithm_Was_4_of_Trading_Activity_Last_Week an interesting article on what needs to be stopped
Short term trading may or cannot be stopped but that computer program menace - can that be stopped ?
I have to agree with all you are saying Danny . I'm a boomer and most of the other investors that I know are as well . I have been for the last few years selling Canada and buying USA with the high Canadian dollar . I bought my last venture stocks 4 years ago and can not see me ever buying another . The maple group buying the tsx was the last straw . I have also sold almost all the venture and tsx winners and losers that I had . I'm sure glad that I did . I expect the CN dollar will return to the 85 cent level which will give me great profits . All I hear lately is bashing and pain here at stockhouse . They must have run out of hair of their own to pull out .
Last time there was this much hollering about failure, and all the so called experts chimed in...was 2008! Then a few self made millionaires jumped for a fraction of what they would have paid for a stock between 2009 to 2011. Will it be any different this time? Here comes the PDAC, and record attendance expected. They may be hungry for something other than what's being pushed on the big boards.....and Due Diligence is the name of the game. www.sedar.com is a good way of finding 43-101's and any other history required...as well as getting to know the Teams
V.VIT 6 million ounces of gold sounds tempting but 340 million shares outstanding! No wonder they have so much cash. Are you sure about this algorithmic trading having such a negative effect? I often see stocks gap up 20 and 30 cents and then slowly retract over the following days. Just last week QIT and LOT made significant gains at seemingly normal rates for their good news. I admit algorithmic trading is occurring. A couple of weeks ago I posted a question on the ATC board wondering why precisely every 1 minute 100 shares were being sold, like clockwork. Concerning the market as a whole, I'm wondering if there might be a polar shift so to speak whereby the DOW tumbles to 2008 levels later this year prompting a resurgence of Venture gold stocks? Overall though an excellent article. I was shocked to see PNP that low as I last looked at it in the 0.90s. Curious to see what happens during the usual May sell-off. Could be even more catastrophic for many juniors.
How do people expect investors to respect the Venture miners when trash like PSN, BAJ, GBG, NAU and CLL plague the big board? Not to mention old school billion dollar market cap losers like Oilexco and Opti Canada. This is all happening when gold is at all-time highs and oil is near historical highs. Company costs are out of control, salaries are out of control. And for what? Just to dig stuff out of the ground. It can't be that hard to do. There needs to be much greater regulation of how these companies are run. Meanwhile China comes in and swoops up Canadian assets and Canadian owned companies for cheap. Look at the Aussie exchange. ROZ and PFC trade at just a few million in market cap on the TSXV meanwhile CTP.ax, ROZ and PFC's neighbour in Australia trades at a $230M, near 52-week highs. It could swallow ROZ and PFC combined nearly 10 times over and yet they all have essentially the same prospects as oil explorers in Central Australian basins.
Hello Danny D. I don't doubt you are right with your observations about the deterioration of the venture market for whatever reason in recent years (months?). The main reason is the same it has always been with pretty much of all our endeavours: As long as there is life, there is change. What follows that type of developement, however, is also something that has been around for a long time: When there is sufficient demand for a commodity somebody will find a way to fill that demand, presumably for profit.
Gold mold - time to pick another sector all together like Medical Device. MOM is rolling out Nationally, this is one of the only decent plays left on the Venture exchange.
The Venture and Junior Gold Market is very much in danger of collaspe, especially with the broader market near record highs. The Program Algo Trading in this micro-cap market should be banned by regulators, who turn a blind eye to the institutions involved. All Greed for short term gains causing long term damage in this market.
You fail to point out that Venture companies have borrowed some of Ben Bernanke's printing machines and have been pumping out share certificates at a furious pace over the last few years. The massive glut has caused massive dilution and maybe it might not matter if something was actually accomplished with the money that was raised but disillusioned shareholders have gotten tired of waiting. The goal in life of too many of the Venture companies seems to be to spend the money and then raise more money to spend. Work towards building a mine? No ..... whatever for?
Venture exchange is the riskiest asset class and therefore should be the last one to go up, as has been the case recently, so either it'll start to rally soon or its horrible performance indicates a possible major selloff is on the way on the broader markets.
This article has hit the nail right on the head. With the PDAC opening this weekend many junior miners are struggling for financing and this predator trading has driven away much of the necessary risk financing so badly needed by this segment of the market.
cycles come and go when it comes to juniors.some go away permanently while others rehash same properties or move onto other properties or new sectors entirely when the timing is right,remember the high tech bubble when miners did RTOs to get away from mining to go high tech.betcha,if they just hang on a little longer and survive,they would of done well to some extent when gold woke up again a year or so after the tech bubble.all the best to all.got less miners since summer 2012,went non mining and so far so good.
SO---you track 50 junior cos. with one million ounces NI 43-101 compliant. What about GCU---Gold Canyon Resources, in Ontario/Springpole? 5.2 million OZ. 43-101 compliant--almost ALL in the measured & indicated categories--PEA coming out very shortly---$ 10 mill cash in the bank--- excellent management team--lots of exploration potential---ONLY at 47 cents per share! they also have an advanced heavy REEs property--Malawi. It is worth a "gander", IMO---Barn Breath
Hell, this gives me some hope ! When writers like John Kaiser, Eric Coffin & Danny Deadlock etc are predicting the end of the Venture market, as a contrarian , isn't it a signal to buy? True, i don't quite understand why the Venture started tanking in Feb 2011( Fukushima LOL?) & the broad markets went up?? I am more worried about everybody else( ie Globe & Mail etc etc) are saying it is time to buy & get back into the market when the Dow, S&P are at all time highs!Past history says this is dangerous. My thought, don't worry, be happy.I am a bull , at least fom April to Dec 2013. Do your due diligence. And use, most important , use your stop losses. So any comments??
....and all the same sort of comments were being made back in 2008. Lets face it, this is what makes a market bottom. When even the usually overly optimistic newsletter writers are getting bearish and sounding scared on some ocassions, thats when you have maximum fear in the market and everyone knows when you have max fear, you have capitulation and when the last of the sellers is out, then guess what, all that remains is Buyers. I think we're nearing that point now. Go and read some jim Sinclair and you'll see that Gold is doing exactly the same thing but when it bottoms in this correction, the next move is UP, and it could be WAY up. Dont think for a minute that these same Juniors that are dropping like stones won't suddenly go up 500% in a better investment climate for resource stocks. There will be a time again when people are falling over themselves to buy into the next big thing in the Junior mining sector. When gold hits $2,000 & keeps going, then look at the Juniors soar.
FOS is a Toronto company not venture I believe but yes 27 cents with 34 cents a share cash and a resource which took tens of millions to define.Market is in need of a fix.
When the market turns bad people naturally look for a scapegoat; in this case the algorithmic traders! This is completely NOT true. While the venture exchange does have some algorithm trading is it a very small % of total volume. The venture market does not have enough liquidity to allow for mass algo trading, anyone who thinks a 5 cents venture stock with a 40 million share float is being algo traded all day long is nuts. The vast majority of this trading volume is manual proprietary traders who have been involved in the venture market for 10 plus years, nothing new. In fact, without these prop traders the venture market would be in even worse shape, leaving the market with large spreads and no liquidity. The reality is that the retail client has been blown up by greedy old brokers charging 4% commission, worst of breed scum bag management types who run 95% of venture companies and don't even answer the phone yet still pay themselves 150,000$ a year.
I am in the age group who have watched the market change due to trading programs and reduced fees to do a trade. I was happy to see trades costing less than $10.00 when they used to be much higher. However this has helped day trading and irrational moves in stock prices which do not relate to anything happening with the company being traded. I agree if not fixed many of the listings will be gone and the number of new projects started by venture stocks will drop.
Could the Venture exchange completely collapse? With the top 50-100 Venture companies moving over to the TSX? Everyone else consolidates or closes shop. I foresee a major correction in the US and likely Canada by the late spring. What will happen to the juniors if there's a major correction or collapse in the broader market? This is looking scarier and scarier.
 
 
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