interesting, and I bet this is much easier with an illiquid smaller cap such as ours. I had read about Jesse Livermore being involved in this sort of thing but assumed it was not as common these days. The downtrend for us has been going on for about two years now, so that's a long time for a manipulation to happen with the purpose of re-entering at a lower price. If you assume that this is whats happening though I guess you get follow the lead of the manipulator and get back in when the selling stops and buying begins. I think it is equally possible and probably simpler to think that the sentiment has changed for junior gold stocks generally (see GLDX) and that VTR is being sold along with other junior golds due to a lot of foolishnesh and a simple change in sentiment.