I just don;t believe that any brokerage house is going to sell their stock to knock the price down, nor persue the management for a PP just to get cheap stock.  I do like what the Chief says about the potential of Zen, but I just can't agree with his total take on the so called manipulation. If it even appeared that this sort of thing was going on , they would be found out and prosecuted.  Another thing... I don;t think any borker could even short this stock..