"investors have to ask some questions here about why this stuck where it is when its so great..."

Yes, monty. That's the key to proper due diligence here and it does get glossed over by the pumpers whenever someone comes out here and points it out. Instead it gets personal with attacks along the lines of hidden agendas, lost money on the investment, bitterness... In short, it's about the personalities rather than the facts. Whenever you see this on a forum it's time to run for the hills.  After nearly 15 years trading stocks and watching these boards I've never been wrong about those signs of the classic boiler room.