ORT is a winner...HAO is a loser (period). You said "HAO knows how to promote.." Are you serious? HAO knows how to "hype", they have no clue how to "promote". If you think HAO is going along on ORT's ride I think you are wrong, but I have been wrong before. Good luck to all the ORT longs...if you're into HAO, good luck but don't expect magic. All the best.