I must agree with you that the Q3 report wasn't bad enough to warrant this trashing of the stock.  And tomorrow when they do their dog and pony show, the stock will rise, as it always doesn't when they sit in front of a bunch of paid players.  I have to think shareholder fatigue combined with year end tax selling is a big reason for the sell off.  These guys are inaccessible and people can easily find more dynamic stocks that are easier to trade in and out of and make the same or better money on.  Just my opinion, but as an intermidate term shareholder, I find that I'm seriously thinking about taking this as a tax loss and not coming back.  I'm  undecided, and will wait for a while on my decision, but it is management's lack of visibility that bothers me more than anything about SGY.