Half empty half full I guess...but if you think about how much equity they have, it's even more comfortable that they did some debt to.  They did the debt to take out a disgruntled debt holder.....if you don't know that than you don't know what's coming and of course you're a negative Nancy.  I call it like it is, wait and see, not trying to get you to buy cause no matter what no one on this board can make it move where they want.