Shlinker, I don't know what your game plan is with PTA.  We all have one.  I understand your plan. It is not mine.  You are a trader, that is O.K.. Daytrading PTA has it's merits, one can make money that way.  I personally believe in the management of this company to take the SP considerably above where we are now. Do your thing, but beware,  one day when your outside the fence this stock will take off and leave you behind.