Unfortunately I didn't get to any of their presentations.  They had hoped to be in NY near the new year, but because the negotiations are ongoing with their partners, they decided against it (same reason they didn't present in London...probably not much to say, or that they can say, until these deals are done one way or the other).  If they wrap this up and get over to the East Coast, I'm going to do what I can to meet Ash.  I'll let you know.