So... what happened to Jeff Redmond.  Did JP kick him out, too?  He seems to do that a lot in his companies. Kicking out his officers.  No wonder so many of his companies are way down.  No consistency in management over time.  Happened at SA, too when they got rid of their VP... from that time on stock went down and down.  Same here.  Anyway, good prices for buying and am picking up a lot in both NZ and SA.  Energy and gold after all will always be in demand, as long as they can deliver both substances in suitable amounts.