i figure 18 millions revenue is the bottom we need, we should get that without any growth (because in Q3, epay was under mint for 70 days so Q4 with 90 days should bring on or about 18M$) Anything more than 18M would be sign that the business is growing. If we get 20M , its all good but, in my opinion we are far from 25-30M$ right now, we would need more contract to be signed, remittances business to be active and all that.