I don't get it. What do you mean by that. What am I missing here. Are you saying Grondin said something to make people believe the prospects are better than what can be expected? Please explain. I speak for myself, but I don't just buy on what management says, I buy on results and, of course, faith and trust in management. In this case, Grondin. Put those too together, and in a company like Thoma you get a winner. That's why people should not sell low (as i didn't)(and don't be fooled). My buying practice, based on years of experience,  says it's time to buy and it has been since awhile .... like at 10 cents. Looking forward to the DAWG days of summer. ATB.        SD