I hear you on that one, kspiece, stupidity gets the best of those with high hopes.... blinds them to reality.... as it did with me too.  But, of course, certain others will think that calling ouselves stupid is just another ploy to win them over.  And you know what.... telling them this in person wouldn't make a difference to them.... they, as we were, are like a horse with blinders.... there is no peripheral.  To be honest... when I first admitted that the likes of wooliebully and tzero were right was embarrassing but now that I can see the same closed mindedness that I had.... in others.... the embarrasment has passed and a very valuable lesson has been learned; never discard what others say without stepping out of my self and investigating the validity of their opinion. Herbert Spencer said... contempt prior to investigation will keep us in ever lasting ignorance.  So true!