Yes, reelnorth... not one word a lie. David Lucatch stood at the front of the room and admitted that the traffic that ortsbo was getting was costing Intertainment Media 250k to 500k a month. And then he said... "Let me repeat that". As if to make certain we all heard it loud and clear so that we couldn't say he never told us. And he then went on to repeat it! 250k to 500k per month. He said that when they realized it wasn't working and they didn't have that kind of money to keep throwing into it in hopes that it would eventually work... they stopped doing it.