I agree competely with that. It seems like a lot of hard feelings there. However, if they can get serious financial backing then they may change their tune, particularly in such difficult financial times. I don't think they are stupid. If Mr. H didn't think he had a glimmer of hope he likely wouldn't have made the offer in the first place. There is one common goal here, to find that gold. Cooler heads should prevail (hopefully). I'm starting to view this as much as a good long term investment as I am a short one. As long as they remain solvent. But with so many others interested in Guadalupe there is a good chance of success. It's more than I can say for most of the Venture. IMHO