What I attempted to do illustrate the simple facts of what they have. All though the web site you pointed out is another vehicle for junior assesment finances being critical. We are still dealing with a proven amount of resource and an estimated market value, if the market does not respond as per your noted 2003 levels on juniors in general it will not detract from the fact if HPY is in for the long haul and I believe they are. With the right partner joint venture or royalty set up the value of the company will rise despite the market.There proven resources so far is one of the richest in the world couple that with a North and South American sell market for Wo3. Surrounded by infrastructure in a mining community I am very optermistic they will eventually develope a mine,certainly in tungsten. They also have other excellent copper resources again close to operating mines.