I know exactly where "wwwater" now hangs his hat.  And if you want to partake in that group and are fed up with the dribble here just inbox, a feature on the upper right of your current window, to GWG_REE and ask for an invitation to the private forum set up by Maverick30.  You will also be able to see "wwwater's" latest Forecasted Earnings which eeks with envy by Derminator and the rest of the naysayers.