The decision was made to add in more resources from SKK and that is the only reason for a delay past when they indicated the PEA was expected - had it not been for that, I would think it would have been delivered on the stated schedule but the company felt there was value in incorporating as much of its drill results as possible as that could lead to an expansion of the mine life which we believe will be positive for the PEA. That higher visibility role will, however, accompany the new CEO who will undoubtedly become the face of the company. They would not be staging a tour of LCM on Nov.29/12 there will be a number of analysts and investors. Do you really think they would be doing this if things were not going well? it's saying to me the new furnace is producing customer product also it is also the same day the 3rd quarter numbers are come out.