Shilock, I agree. What you say rings true. aknahow, lots of if's there. Hope we just get some of those if's.

goldDR, Just because we criticize certain aspects doesn't mean we are fools. Just the opposite

as we are seeking out the truth. Lets face it management has let us down in the past although

they may have had no choice.  I know as I have been here 2 or 3 years!