Robert, you've presented a very intriguing question on Pershing!!  I'm not sure if I can answer your question, but I'm going to see if we can put the two together here.  The DCY boys were in NY back in July and Sept. and Pershing came buying significant amount of shares from .12 - .16.  It wasn't any retailer picking them up as it had to be a fund group either from Pershing or buying thru Pershing.  The other part of this equation is the fact that DCY's IR firm only deals with major fund managers.  So, Robert, Pershing the fund could be buying here!!