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i agree yoshi other than-- i think the opposite if forbs group will help-- i think they probably had an agrement for ct to use all other non forbs group avenues first and to only use forbs as a last resort---- i think that because its a good busness plan and im very familiar with that kind of thinking and its egsactly what i would do......... and its not clear at all that we are close to a last resort stage .... i will be calling bill sometime this week .....im sure all is well... i think once the over all picture is digested properly that will be clear ..also i might add - i like the fract they are figuring out that fold system . .