Hey goldy my kid got a new board game for christmas..it's called apples to apples...as in comparing apples to apples...If as part of your dd you delude yourself into useless comparisons...well buddy its tough to make $$$$...do you want to talk about your short list??..well if so capex plays a large part in today's valuations..low capex high grade deposits are the rarity....not to mention country risk..and all the other risks that play into valuation...High grade..open pit..huge deposit..huge land package..shall I go on?...Barrick deserves a low valuation cus of incredible high capex and their model is broken..now if Barrick could just make some $$$$..well the valuation would soar....we could argue forever,and I don't want to..cus your my bud...just say I'm right