More thoughts on the fire sale of the assets, I think the bondholders just want anything they can get back, even at a loss. AI's were running off anyway, so there was little possibility that even Newco couldn't remain a going concern. With news on the fire sale prices, we are actually seeing that Newco is not sucessful. So there's little to envy with the bondholders' situation. What would be interesting is to know who are buying the assets at these low prices. They could just be normal Chinese companies, or they could be some related party to Chan? I don't blame the Chinese government in any of this at all anymore. They may just be innocent bystanders, with a some corrupt officials, and not an organized operation (like 'longonsino', hope you liked the joke the other day).