i dont think so ..........this is being driven down ................ the amount of naked shorts , though you cant prove it .is probabaly huge .....  . if you do some research on the PPT and ESF in the US you will find they control the stock markets and gold .....WHY IS THE CANADIAN MARKET DOWN TODAY /////.....oil was up gold was up and copper was up  .....yet tsx down .........the US drives all financial markets ..........