Well, I appreciate your way of arguing.

Copperwood will cost and ORV is not totally out of the woods.

We have got as you say good signs and potential trouble.

Of course the negotiation position about Copperwood is weak.

Concerning insider buying I am not so sure.

Usually? important people in a company will get options - they do not need to buy in the market.

Also, most persons in a company are not so rich.

The history tells that you can never be sure of anything...