Gleen..there is nothin more manipulated than gold or silver but those in the know take adavantage of it..

The signs are there every day if you know what to look for.

Gold was down 11.00 just minutes aga and now is up last I looked.

CFTC is taking its sweet time putting postion limits in place even though they have publicly announce that there is manipulation by JPM in the sector.  Just follow the past comments by Bart Chilton , one of the commissioners of the CFTC.