mindfree, I'm aware of those numbers, of course.

2 years ago we also expected $200,000 to $300,000 per ton of HPA. So allow me to be conservative on the numbers. My second hypothesis is exactly in line with your suggestion, though. I'm sur hoping for high numbers, but I prefer to do my math on lower ones.

If you remember, RB stated also that he expects $100M in revenues in 2013. With HP silica and SC-Ga contracts we might well reach that goal. I would love that.

One thing I really expect is that Orbite doubles the numbers in 2014, along with higher margin.