I was tentative about copper mtn because I was uncertain that the price of copper would hold up. But given the fact that the recent pull back in copper due to the combine scare over Europe/chine/us economies was unable to push copper meaningfully below the 3.50 range, I am now far mor bullish about copper mountains prospects. Everything else is under their control, more or less. They know what's in the ground, within reasonable tolerance, they can/are/have fixed the ramp up yield issues, within reasonable tolerance, their costs are known, win reasonable tolerance. So at this point the variables are the price of copper, which has held, and the cf and pe multiples that the market will pay for a med sized copper mine.