oldtimer I think the crystal ball scenario comes into play after 2014 and the stock goes to $100 thereafter....  At present I still think this stock is going to $15 maybe $12 between now and the end of 2014...   after that COS will be in a strong uptrend for years ...     At the moment no one wants to touch this stock - and I have been warning people to stay away from it - unless they have a very very long time frame...   Also, if the talk about buying Murphys' share is true there could be more additional fears of dilution.... COS are already taking on upto $2 billion of debt going into 2014 - so maybe they issue shares if they buyout Murph's stake ----- this would explain why the stock is under pressure  ...... thimsyrag