not too sure, huddle. can't even figure out the right price for the rights yet, pretty confusing. don't think an expiration date for rights was ever mentioned in recent releases. may come soon, as all the docs need to be done and approved before the rights become tradeable. so far none in my account yet. today is suppose to be due billing date, come 22nd that is the ex rights date, when they thing the mailings will be done???? symbol for rights will be ans.rt?