Actually didn't Cambior produce 250,000 ounces just prior to the leak the the holding pond? I think just prior to the freeze at the site Cambior was talking about ramping up to 350,000 a year, I dare say no one would stand in front of share holders and say words like that unless he confirmed the reserves yet to be worked on. As well they were talking about a 20 year minimum mine life based on the yearly targets. The Cambior loss may be a huge MGD gain if the team here can get this rodeo started. "Oh how fast things can turn in this market"