as EMPTY. No point arguing about the value. The market changes that all the time. In 09 it was worth .12 cents and in 2011 it was woth north of 8 dollars. A few weeks ago it was 14 to 15 cents and today it is over 30 % higher at .20 cents and nothing has changed as far as the company is concerned. I for one am SICK of posting so I will post again once this is between 2 and 3 dollars. I feel that with a bit of luck, this one could be at those levels in a year or two. THINGS ALWAYS TURN AROUND. One day you are a looser and whalla, all of a sudden you are a winner only to become a looser again. It has to be that way, otherwise we wouldn't have the markets. If you understand that ONE simple thing, you will make money. Another thing to remember is that the market DOES NOT care what you think or what you feel things are worth. It will do it's own thing. If the company has something going, which this one does and some cash to carry it out, than the criteria for buying it is when it is at or near its all time lows. If you wait until they prove up one and a half to two million ounces at Sangihe you will be payin overa dollar for the stock. WHEN WOULD YOU RATHER BUY ????? See you all at over 2 dollars.